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Monday 25 June 2007
Browser Wars: Pshaw! I Use Camino, iCab and Shiira
Some might find this funny, but you know, it’s the truth.
Outside of specific testing and tools issues, which of course must be done for a wide variety of browsers, here’s where I’m at with my personal browser relationships.
I met Camino about 1.5 years ago and it’s been my primary browser ever since. Except for a few rendering oogies, I’ve rarely if ever had a serious problem with it. It’s fast, it’s Gecko, it’s Mac.
And then I found iCab. I love that screaming browser. Lightweight, standards savvy and silly enough for a silly girl. It’s just so fast.
Not long ago I met Shiira. Some people say it’s much like Safari, I don’t agree. Shiira is a curious browser that I hope continues growing. I like it because it’s fast, has some intriguing UI features and also has a dashboard widget that makes it very easy for me to quickly browse a site.
So, as a W3C Invited Expert, a Microsoft consultant and a fan of open source, I have to say: These are my browsers and I believe they are each best of breed.
What’s your browser and why?
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Posted by: Molly | 2:45 pm |
June 25th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
Firefox, because Firebug is supremely sexy. There are a few other addons I probably couldn’t live without either.
June 25th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
From a developer perspective, Firefox since its sports Firebug, Selenium, MeasureIt and loads of other useful extensions. But speedwise, I love Shiira on Mac.
June 25th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
I’ve only recently switched to Camino. I like Firefox over Safari, but it doesn’t feel like the Mac - and - it is slow. Camino is fast and feels like the Mac. Win win!
June 25th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
I’m dreadfully old fashioned. I still use Firefox, warts and all.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
definitely firefox on PC and Mac, i can`t use a browser without firebug, measure it and stuff. but ff is that slow that i use camino when it comes to “surf only” sessions
June 25th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Safari for me. I tried Camino, but I don’t know why it didn’t stick. Maybe it was the submit buttons. I’ll have to try it. Firefox I only use if my eyes start to get weary of aqua, or if I’m styling forms.
I’ll have to take you up on Shiira though… definitely interested.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Firefox. I use Windows and GNU/Linux and it gives a similarly awesome experience on both. And most importantly, it is free and open source.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
For surfing, browsing, bookmarking, etc y goto browser is Camino and has been since before Firefox was a gleam in daddy Blake’s eyes
But I also use Firefox as my primary web development browser — more as tool [or for its tools like the dom inspector, firebug & live http headers extensions]
Safari sits on the sidelines. as does IE & FF on my C.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
I only recently switched to Camino but absolutely love everything about it. I had used Firefox as my main browser before but to be honest it’s really starting to slip as it seems to be getting slower and slower.
So, I would have to say Camino first, then Safari, Firefox and Shiira all fight for second place on a daily basis.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
It used to be Camino. Then Camino died on me, and now it won’t even start up anymore… Shiira is way too unstable, so after being enlightened @ WWDC as to the powers of WebKit, I’m actually back to running nightlies of WebKit…
June 25th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Another vote for Firefox + Firebug (I use Neil Lee’s optimized Mac build of Firefox, actually).
It’s an all-in-one solution that makes web development sooooo much easier (plus I rely on the Sage extension as my feed reader).
Maybe with the final release pf Safari 3 things may change because its Web inspector and CSS support is pretty impressive.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
I’m one of those lepers, the uncool of the web development crowd - I have a Windows PC and I wouldn’t have it any other way. I use Firefox, because there are certain extensions I just cannot live without - namely firebug, the web developer toolbar, colorzilla.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Currently Safari 3 plus the latest Webkit nightly. The new Web Inspector is so sexy.
Prior to that Camino 1.5. Nice Mac app, though the latest version seems to make an excessive number of DNS calls.
- Neil.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Firefox + Firebug (yay!) for my faster windows machine at work, and for debugging pages at home. Trying to switch to Opera for home windows machine because Firefox just gets too slow to start and hogs boatloads of tasty, tasty memory. Opera loads very fast and works on most sites that care about doing ECMAscript right.
Not using Safari on Windows until it actually maximises without crashing.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Yeah, as I spend most of my time on a PC, Firefox is where it’s at. Between the Web Developer Toolbar and Firebug, it’s indispensable.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
I use Firefox for internet browsing. IE7 + Web Developer Toolbar - Work purposes, and IE6 + Web developer toolbar - also work. Opera 9.2 - wthout any extensions - Work
June 25th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
I use Opera on my PC (Vista) for daily surfing. Firefox + Firebug + Web Developer + HTML Validator + Colour Contrast Analyser + ColorZilla for webdevelopment. I have IE 7 as well, but I don’t use it at all
June 25th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Firefox because of the extensibility across platforms - I run OS X on my personal machine, but almost always have Windows XP on client sites. I don’t think I could live without Chris Pederick’s Web Developer Toolbar and the del.icio.us add-on. Also ‘cos it’s portable (http://portableapps.com) and I still get to use it on client sites that way.
I’ve never really used Camino or Safari, although at times I’ve been tempted when the OS X memory leaks kill Firefox.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
No real fave browser but I use Camino right now and Safari for the one website that refuses to work in Camino (one of my banks).
I miss Firefox extensions and a couple of features but not its memory footprint.
June 25th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Favorite browser — don’t have one. I look at browsers at what they offer people in terms of speed, usability and, most importantly, security. In security, all modern browsers fail miserably .. but that goes much deeper than browser developers.
The browser used depends upon my need. Lynx for security. Firefox for development. Testing - All of them, except IE. I no longer make corrections for any IE browser. General browser use — who has the damn time.
June 25th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
I’m a PC user (I’ll make the switch to Mac if there’s a Mac tablet!), so firefox all of the way due to the addons that I use! Occasionally, I pop over into IE7 if the site I’m visiting doesn’t work with Firefox.
At work, the designated browser is IE6. I miss tabbed browsing at work!
June 25th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
Camino is my best choice.
I use (unfortunately) all browsers available, just so that the sites that i need to use work. Sometimes forms work in Camino, sometimes they only work in Safari, sometimes the site uses special refresh techniques that only work in Firefox, etc. It’s painful. I keep trying all browsers until a site i visit to pay bills or buy airline tickets or hotel websites work.
June 25th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
True confession: I use a PC. Have done so since the 1980s. I have Firefox (my personal favorite), Internet Explorer, and Opera on my desktop machine. The laptop has Firefox and Internet Explorer.
I test websites in Firefox, IE, and Opera. And I have my Mac-using colleagues test on Firefox, Safari, and whatever else suits their fancy.
June 25th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
Another Camino fan here! I use it as my primary browser, and Firefox for development. Firefox with all of the web development extensions (firebug, web developer toolbar, etc) is too slow for normal browsing, but a developer’s best friend.
June 25th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
What Aaron Gustafson said (and for the same reasons). Cheers Aaron!
June 25th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
Luke: I bet you use Flock!
June 25th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
Hands down my browser of choice is Firefox. I also use Safari and support it… I test development with a lot of browsers but I’m a Firefox guy.
June 25th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
[…] Camino doesn’t often get a lot of “high-profile” internet press like “that other browser”—we do have a few fans like tech journalist and blogger Om Malik, browser polygamist extraordinaire (and our very own “staff” designer) Jon Hicks, noted purveyor of Mac nerdery John Gruber, and a couple of others I’m forgetting (sorry!) who write about Camino releases regularly—so it’s always nice to see a new fan among the movers-and-shakers of the web world. Today we hear that noted web standards advocate (and more) Molly Holzschlag is also a Camino fan. […]
June 25th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Firefox for its extensions, but for just browsing I found Opera at about version 5.something. back then it was the only real alternative to IE, although it wasn’t that great. Since v7 though, its been great. v9 is by far the best, 9.5 due out very soon sounds like sweet goodness.
If only they would add better developer tools similar to firebug, webdev toolbar, tidyvalidator to name a few. If they did I’d move back to Opera fulltime.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
I’ve never really considered Camino before, thinking I can’t live without my extensions. But after reading all the comments here, I’m downloading to give it a try.
Firefox is terribly slow, seems to be getting worse actually. Digg’s new comment pages regularly freeze my entire system for a minutes or two!
PS, if I ever need an online citation for the word curmudgeon, I hope you don’t mind if I use thacker’s comment above!
June 25th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Opera for all personal browsing; paired with Firefox+extensions for development. On PC, not Mac - Kay you’re not the only one!
Opera is my browser of choice because I find it’s full-featured and usually ahead of the game. I was happily tab-browsing in Opera years before that mode went mainstream!
It’s also the most secure (according to secunia) and runs widgets without needing to load another platform. Other nifty stuff: mouse gestures, excellent keyboard shortcuts, content blocker, bittorrent, small screen emulator… all natively supported.
I’ve found that most arguments for Firefox largely come back to extensions (and also the cooler name and logo - because that’s what you want while you’re entering your credit card number). The problem with most extensions is that they rely entirely on some third party to keep updating them. Just like a puppy, an extension isn’t just for christmas… so many of them just stop getting updated one day. Too bad if you used it heavily in your daily workflow.
With Opera, most of the features I actually want are already in there - and done by Opera. So they’re far more likely to be there in the next version than a lot of FF extensions.
That said, you can already add/extend Opera - it’s just not called “extensions”. “User js” lacks a certain naming zing so all the Firefox fanboys/girls don’t notice it
I still wouldn’t say no to more Opera extensions for web development; although the current toolbars etc are quite good, they’re not quite as good as the ones in Firefox.
Downsides of Opera? Well the default toolbar isn’t great. I always recommend people customise it and I do think it’s a prime reason the average user “doesn’t like” Opera - they install it, look at if for 30 seconds and go back to IE or FF because the toolbar is different. Opera also needs an auto-update feature like Firefox.
I also think Opera for the Mac needs to be prettied up - Mac users often cite “ugly” as the reason they don’t use Opera. So, to cater to that market Opera should stop worrying about new features until they make a nicer default skin. Mac users - don’t get upset, you know it’s true
June 25th, 2007 at 11:47 pm
I’m an Opera person myself. Been using it since 9.0 came out and am loving it. It’s fast, very standard complient. It’s zoom function is something any visually disabled would dream off. But probably most important is that it works fast. I’m someone who can’t be bothered with a point-and-click mouse too much because it’s a slow creature. Opera has a vast array of shortcuts to anything you might require.
Oh yeah, and I like that they build in many features of W3C drafts, like CSS3 support. It’s great to see what you can do with it and get some idea what the future will look like.
June 26th, 2007 at 1:36 am
Hi Moll
I asked “Why do you use this browser, not that browser?” on my site a while ago.
My own dull answer is that I use Firefox and Opera for developing - Opera because it’s fast, I believe it follows standards very well and is good for checking the increasingly important mobile market, Firefox because of the Web Developer and Firebug extensions, both of which are absolute must-haves.
June 26th, 2007 at 1:55 am
I’m going to be writing about this on my blog very soon:
I use IE 7 for day-to-day browsing, because it’s fast and simple and has a nice interface. I use FF for work, because I love the spell checking and it has great extensions that I need for all my web development stuff. I usually have FF and IE 7 open at the same time, and there’s nothing wrong with that!
June 26th, 2007 at 2:05 am
I work on a PC so I use Firefox.
Imo it’s the best of the bunch, Opera I find is too eccentric, IE is, as any developer knows, a patched up embarassment.
When I occasionally use a mac, I’ll use Safari because development wise it’s the most important browser to be familiar with.
June 26th, 2007 at 2:46 am
Firefox, dillo, Konqueror and w3m.
Firefox for all the usual and web development stuff, Konqueror for testing and multi-purpose use, dillo and w3m for damn fast access to the web ignoring JS and other bullshit
cu, w0lf.
June 26th, 2007 at 4:42 am
Unapologetically Firefox, which I have customized to within an inch of its life. I have tried lots of browsers (all those that are available for PC anyways) but none of them have the tab behaviour I want (via TabMixPlus). Safari is very fast, but I will not allow sites to open new windows (or even tabs) without permission. Other essential extensions for everyday life: NoScript, Adblock, del.icio.us and the extremely useful Enhanced History Manager.
And for development, who can live without Chris Pedericks’ toolbar? Does Safari or Camino or any of these browsers have an equivalent? Also more than handy: Firebug, Colorzilla, LiveHTTPHeaders and the DOM inspector.
June 26th, 2007 at 4:44 am
Forgot to mention Context Search.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:20 am
Spyglass Mosaic! I still like to use this browser, ‘cuz of the good memories.
Usually, I use K-Meleon and SeaMonkey. I have IE7 on a virtual machine just for testing, and I downloaded Safari for Windows to see what the fuss was about.
I also use Tor Park, and I recommend it for clients in countries with internet censorship.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:47 am
I use Firefox. I have fallen in love with some of the extensions. As much as I enjoy some of the other browsers, I depend on some of these extensions.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:49 am
::chuckling:: Hey, Newton — keep it simple and stupid. Shorten that “curmudgeon” word to prick and preface it with the word “extraordinary”, then you may go for it. By the way, do Canadians understand the acronym of FU? I am kidding in all of this.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:23 am
Firefox, because of extensions. Otherwise Camino for speed and Mac OS integration (Keychains, for example). I would say Safari, but for purely aesthetic reasons I won’t, (shallow, I know). I can’t stand looking at the brushed metal anymore.
June 26th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Firefox whether I am on my MAC or PC. I am in love with too many of the extensions. I find it great as a browser for web development. At times for work I have to use IE for StrongMail as they don’t fully support other browser yet but I cannot wait for that to change.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:39 am
I use Opera.
Why? Because it’s miles ahead of Firefox, has loads of nifty features like mouse gestures, speed dial, makes FF look like a slow, sluggish beast, has awesome tools for viewing pages how the hell you want to, better popup blocker… millions of reasons.
However, FF is still king for web development.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
On a PC I’m FF, I have used Opera which I did like as well. Basically anything other than IE gives you some security. I’ve also used Safari on Mac and find it to be a great program. Like others said FF still has the most plugins imo.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
I haven´t considered Camino till now. I use Firefox and Firebug and IE for tests. But now I´ll give Camino second thoughts…
June 26th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
I use IE 7. *g*
JUST KIDDING!!! I use FF for a lot of the same reasons others have mentioned. I found out the other day that yes it’s a Gecko browser like so many others. I keep imagining salamanders wandering through my browser screen.
I’ll have to explore some of the others, although being stuck on a PC does limit my options.
June 26th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Opera.
Very fast and customisable.
And increasingly using Lynx, this browser is not only fast, quite secure and helpful for development, it helps concentrating on real information.
June 26th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
I remain convinced that the decoupling of the browser from the rendering engine is the single best advance in technology for web designers in the last five years. God knows CSS hasn’t improved any in that time.
But seriously, the fact that the rendering engine and the browser are no longer the same thing has made it possible for “alternative” browsers like Flock, Camino and Shirra to pop onto the scene and captivate those who are interested in their niche features without changing the browser landscape for us web designers. That is a Very Big Deal™.
Personally, I use Safari. Why? Mostly, because it feels the most Mac-like of any browser I’ve used and I love the way it renders text. I do use FF/Firebug some while in development, but not so much any more with the new tools built into WebKit.
June 26th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
I’ve admittedly bloated the living hell out of Firefox and use it for any work-related items, but Camino 1.5 runs all day for casual surfing.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:18 am
Firefox is my goto browser for just about everything right now. It is fast and has great developer support. I know it doesn’t exactly fit in with Mac, but hey I am an eclectic kind of guy.
However, Kestrel, the latest version of Opera being developed, has caught my attention. We shall see if it holds it or not.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Sometimes Opera is so beautiful it brings tears to my eyes. I love it for so many reasons. Some afore-unmentioned features which are indispensible are: A built-in screen-reader; Pagination detection - you need only to press forward or use a shortcut/mouse gesture for forward to go to the next page in a set; E-mail and RSS feeds are treated the same, so a search returns messages from both.
It baffles me that Opera doesn’t have a lareger market share. It seems the main factors contributing to their lack are rumours (you have to pay or there is a banner ad; it isn’t very secure; etc.) and old-school sites that use browser-sniffing to exclude their Opera-using audience. Hopefully time will ameliorate these injustices and Opera will recieve the market share it deserves.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:55 am
SeaMonkey (what used to be Mozilla), because no other browser better accommodates the way _I_ want to use it, and it’s still Gecko.
June 27th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
I use Opera for browsing because it is soooo much better than the rest
, and Firefox for development. IE only gets used for testing and hair pulling.
One drawback to using Opera is that some web apps do not work correctly.
June 27th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Molly, I think that each of your choices is Mac-only. What about portability? Or, to ask a related question, if you had to use Windows, what browser would you use?
June 27th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Well… I use beautiful Safari 3. It’s the fastest, the best, and the most beautiful browser out their. Why use others when you have the the best browser out their. What’s the problem with it? Can someone answer this question?
June 27th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Primary: Firefox with firebug, web developer et al I use a number of different machines and OSs. The tools are good and it does not matter if I am on a mac, windows or linux box.
Secondary: Pocket Internet Explorer on Windows Mobile 5 in one column mode. The first version of pocket IE I hated, I almost bought Opera Mobile, but I upgraded my phone ROM, got an updated version of pocket IE, switched it to one column mode and never got round to getting Opera Mobile. Do have Opera Mini for those sites that Pocket IE does not handle.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
re: Mac v. PC - I use a MBP and run windows XP, windows vista and ubuntu in Parallels. So I play around with a lot of browsers. On Windows, I like Opera and Firefox, for all the reasons (and then some) cited in this discussion.
I’m on the road a lot, the MBP seems the most reasonable choice to do multi-platform testing. It’s not great for running most apps outside the Mac OS, so that’s where I spend most of my time. I use other browsers all the time for testing and so on, but do my browsing and interactions primarily with Camino, and Shiira Mini on the Dashboard.
June 28th, 2007 at 4:50 am
Funny multi-browser-world on a mac, but if you live on windows, the only browser, that works for me is Firefox. I don’t like Opera very much, but i can’t tell really why… and I’m really looking forward to a working Safari for Windows machines; even if it’s not the fastest browser - that’s a brilliant pr myth for me - respect mr. jobs.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:13 am
Hey, it’s not a myth. Why don’t you run benchmark test on windows by youself and the what’s faster? So anyone would like to answer my question?
June 28th, 2007 at 8:23 am
Now I am not fighting but I am just asking that, I just don’t understand what’s the problem with Safari 3. It’s on Windows and Mac. It’s a Leopard feature. The fastest browser in the world-go run benchmark tests by yourself and see the results with own eyes. It’s on iPhone. It has the best UI. Renders text beautiful on LCDs. It’s beautiful. And it’s made by Apple. By the way, I am a web designer and developer, and also creating Web Applications; I know really well about most of the browsers out their.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:02 am
Umair–
Apple’s entry into the Windows browser market is interesting. Apple has the identical strength of brand awareness as Microsoft. If Apple takes security seriously [they just may — beta 3.0 to beta 3.01 in two days to correct uncovered security flaws] and they merchandise the browser correctly, Safari for Windows could very get pulled through distribution as a browser for the general public. Vis á vis, no other browser may be better positioned to take on IE.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Molly likes me
June 28th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
@umair: i run a german version of windows. safari actually can’t render heading-tags and causes many reproduceable crashes on german windows - so it’s not of any use. it’s not beta-status it’s like a pre-alpha to me. and: don’t ever rely on benchmarks, primarily if it’s about safari: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/safaribenchmarks.html
don’t get me wrong - i’m really looking forward to a WORKING safari on windows - even if it’s not faster than other browsers.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:41 am
So it’s you that uses iCab. I knew I’d find that elusive user eventually …
June 29th, 2007 at 5:11 am
Opera. Right mouse click menu (copy image to clipboard, etc.), mouse gestures, etc. Works faster than Firefox and eats less resources — and Firefox’s image scroll bug ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163975 ) really kills my old poor machine…
June 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
Molly,
I’m a die-hard Opera user. Have been since Opera 5 came out. As for other browsers, I’ve tried a lot of them, and am currently running IE 7 (installed), as well as IE standalones for 3, 4, 5.01, 5.5 and 6; for Gecko-based browsers I run Netscape 6.2, 7, 8 and 9 (I even have Netscape 4.79, but that’s an antique, and not even a Gecko browser, still nice to have though especially if I need a good scare once in a while) as well as K-Meleon 1.0
I tried my hand with Flock and other Gecko-based browsers for Windows but could never get used to it, and the lucre-browser wannabies (Maxthon, Deepnet Explorer, Avant “Browser” and so on) just made me want to puke.
With Safari 3 now available for Windows, I’m hoping that Apple can keep the rendering engine and display the same as the Mac version (people can gripe about the Mac-like interface all they want, as is their right, but I like it since it shows me-to a degree-what my work will look like on the actual Mac installs of Safari).
And with Konqueror being ported to Windows with KDE 4.0 (or so it seems) testing on other browsers just won’t be necessary, especially if the rendering engines aren’t forked into separate versions.
I’m going to go ahead and shut up now before I start a flame war on your blog about browser choices.
Enjoy your day.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
I use Lynx extensively to test sites I design, to ensure they meet accessibility standards.
And it’s also great for surfing ad-bloated websites.. hey, presto!
I also use Cello for checking if a project won’t crash for someone with a really, really old machine.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:44 am
Safari.
I like the way it formats text. Pages look always slightly nicer in Safari. I am still longing for the beauty of text composed with TeX in a world that has learned since long to accept the compromises of Word as standard.
Safari is clean and mean and pretty fast. Firefox is what I use for working, but then I want all sorts of weapons on board, like Firebug.
I always use Safari when I am “just browsing, thanks”.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:18 am
I prefer lynx, FF (my fav) and IE (that’s no joke: it’s fast and its compatible to all that specials stuff I need at work)… I can not stand opera…
July 13th, 2007 at 11:56 am
Opera opera opera opera ^_^!!!
Im italian (sorry for my bad english)… I love Opera, ‘cuz i really love the way u use right-click mouse for browsing. I hope that it will be an OS integrating that feature for browsing the filesystem.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Firefox. Because it is free and open source.
July 15th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
I’ve just dumped FF after 2 years of fandom. Why? The obvious reasons - it’s hideously slow, like wading through treacle, and RAM hungry, locks up constantly with Ajax and javascript, and the text render is just appalling. Xyle Scope makes Firebug redundant, but Developer’s Toolbar is still a draw, so I’ll still use it for local development. Safari looks the nicest - very crisp typography, but it too is lumbering and very slow. Safari 3b is only marginally better than Safari2, but still way to slow to bear. Opera is, I think, good, but no 1PassWd support which renders it useless for me. I’ve just downloaded Camino and I feel like I’m driving a Ferrari - it’s positively zippy! I think it’s the one. I’m off to check out iCab now, you reminded me…
August 8th, 2007 at 6:57 am
[…] Is Firefox losing me? Not me, but definitely my Dad, and probably many more. There are some Mac users who prefer Camino or Safari for their casual browsing. Even I have started using alternative browsers like Epiphany and Konqueror for casual surfing, and Firefox has turned into just a developer tool. Why? Because it is too expensive, in terms of memory and CPU usage both, for Web surfing. […]
August 17th, 2007 at 10:02 am
I’ve dropped Firefox also, As said before it’s slow, and it’s ram and CPU hungry. I’ve tried Shiira, Safari 2 and 3 Beta and, when I found Camino I was in heaven. It’s amazing, the only problem is the tab bug where the pointer goes crazy on tabs.
October 4th, 2007 at 12:22 am
İnternet explorer.Because i like it’s interface..more usefull than firefox or opera i think.
November 15th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
iCab is still around? I thought it was dying a slow death after Mac OS 9 was replaced by OSX! Back before OSX, Cyberdog was a great internet suite- seemlessly browsing web, fetching email, news and gopher sites! Its a great example of why good software should be open source! And iCab isn’t, and I’m not going to wait to see if it meets the same fate as Cyberdog- same goes for Safari.
If I use another browser, its because I’m waiting for another firefox release or plug-in.
Firefox is slow, memory and ram hungry? Buy more RAM!!!
November 20th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
I love IE7.
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 am
thanks for the article
January 29th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
thanx
February 18th, 2008 at 4:11 am
Sometimes Opera is so beautiful it brings tears to my eyes. I love it for so many reasons. Some afore-unmentioned features which are indispensible are: A built-in screen-reader; Pagination detection - you need only to press forward or use a shortcut/mouse gesture for forward to go to the next page in a set; E-mail and RSS feeds are treated the same, so a search returns messages from both.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:41 am
yeah sure..
February 25th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
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February 26th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Opera
I’m using Opera as main browser since version 3.
From the start I was catched by its speed (rendering, GUI, history navigation), tabs (MDI), full-page-zoom, keyboard shortcuts for disabling images and styles. Also I liked its small installer size.
Now I can add to all these:
sessions, ligtweight M2 mail client (with similar to Gmail concept), ability to handle more than 100 tabs w/o crashing and memory leaks for days, news feeds reader integrated in mail client, integrated notes, sessions…
February 26th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
BTW, it’s sad that iCab team decided to stop developing their own engine…
It was second browser that I like after Opera.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
I use firefox because it was easy and load fast compare to the existing browser in my computer.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
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March 17th, 2008 at 7:28 am
thankss..
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March 30th, 2008 at 9:37 am
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April 22nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm
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April 22nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm
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May 28th, 2008 at 11:37 am
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June 8th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
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