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Tuesday 18 October 2005
Web Design and Development Personality Indicators
I’VE HAD ENOUGH! Frustrated with the range of attitudes and opinions I deal with as a standards-oriented educator, I’ve decided to begin a project (very) loosely based on the Meyers-Briggs personality indicators. So, dear readers, I’m hoping you’ll help me add and refine my categories, but I’m off to a start with the following:
- OFAD. Old Fart Anti-Design. These are the guys (and I mean guys) that were on the Web as early as 1991. Almost all physicists at major research institutions, they’re the ones who helped Tim Berners-Lee refine the Web and were the first adopters. Mostly long in the tooth now, some are still kicking and they can be described as the anti-designers. These aren’t even purists - today’s approaches seem foreign and sometimes frightening to them. They long for the days of Lynx, really, but barring glowing text on a terminal and HTML authored in Vi or Emacs, their idea of Web design is default gray backgrounds, default text, maybe a list, and the apex of old fart visual design: a horizontal rule. Fortunately, this is a very rare breed and usually they can be ignored because unless they’ve progressed somewhat, they have precious little to offer the contemporary, standards-oriented Web designer or developer.
- OSVD. Old Skool Visual Designer. These are the folks that refuse to see beyond their nested-tables-spacer-GIF design. In fact, you can find them at a variety of ad agencies and teaching at conferences all over the world, still excited when they create a design in Photoshop and use the so-called HTML export utility. These designers are often extremely hostile toward standardistas largely because the idea of change or looking at code is so traumatic that they hold on to the Old Skool methodology as if it were a lifeboat on a stormy sea. Unfortunately, this breed isn’t rare enough.
- TTLM. Trying To Learn More. In this category are the good men and women who might still be serving it up Old Skool but are open to learning, open to growth yet struggling with standards related concepts and the snakepit of browser challenges of contemporary Web design and development. These brave souls are not in the majority, but they are to be lauded and assisted for their willingness to venture forth and expand their horizons.
- SAVD. Standards Aware Visual Designer. These people are designing with standards in mind - creating beautiful sites for the screen, working toward achieving accessible sites, examining usability and human factors, and very possibly beginning or already designing for alternative devices and media types. A very rare breed, and if you are reading this post it’s very highly likely you’re either one your own fine self, know all their names or have Zeldman’s personal phone number memorized.
- SASS. Standards Aware Structural Semanticist. These personalities are very code-centric, with little interest (or more often, skill) in presentation but lots of interest in the proper structuring of documents, use of meaningful markup, microformats, Semantic Web and the like. At their most compulsive, they can become purists to the point of having unrealistic expectations of the more worldly Web worker. Also a rare breed, SASS personalities are extremely important to the good of the Web but sometimes need to be reminded that smart structure and semantics can happily co-exist with visual design.
- SACE. Standards Aware Cutting Edge. Whether visual designers or code-centric or both, these are the folks that design first for Firefox, Safari and Opera and work around IE 6.0 only because they have to. Given their druthers, sites would be built using practically no markup and lots of attribute selectors, just because they like the idea. A rare breed worth watching, but also in need of reminders that the rest of the world just ain’t there yet, and in fact, really are lagging behind.
Hybrids are not unusual, either. I sort of live between the SASS and the SAVD personalities, with not enough real design skill to execute great visual designs, but enough savvy to appreciate beautiful, standards-based Web sites. There’s probably a personality type for people like me, but it’s very difficult to assess my own character, so I’ll leave it there for now.
As I’m typing this, I’m on a ship in the Eastern Caribbean teaching CSS on a Geek Cruise. The ship, the MS Zuiderdam, is just in the process of docking at Road Town, Tortola, in the British Virgin Isles. I’m sure you all feel really sorry for me right now.
It’s just past dawn and I’m up at the very top of the ship where there happens to be WiFi at the going rate of 40 cents USD per minute, so you’ll forgive me if I leave you now with the following questions: Are you one of these personality types, and if so, which? Do you have a personality type you’d like to add to my little list?
Filed under: humor, standards, web design and development, travel
Posted by: Molly | 4:45 am |
October 18th, 2005 at 4:59 am
I’d put myself in the SAVD-segment, though not THAT good at visual design. Guess I just don’t have the colormatch-gene
October 18th, 2005 at 5:23 am
Great spot-on descriptions!
I think I would be a very complex hybrid between SASS/SACE/SAVD, and also with a charming (and sometimes) misunderstood personality!
October 18th, 2005 at 5:36 am
SAVD/SASS, mostly, but with my secret OFAD occasionally surfacing due to my inability to fully let go of Lynx.
October 18th, 2005 at 5:37 am
I’d say I’m a mixture of the last three, leaning more towards SASS than the others…
October 18th, 2005 at 5:38 am
Jeez, I feel like a cavewoman next to you Ms. Molly. I love your blog. Love. It. Most fab.
October 18th, 2005 at 5:40 am
I guess from your classifications I’d put myself in the SACE bucket, with SASS tendencies — although I certainly don’t fit the little interest in the visual side that later classification brings with it.
October 18th, 2005 at 5:47 am
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October 18th, 2005 at 5:50 am
Proudly a SACE or at least I think I’m !
October 18th, 2005 at 5:54 am
These assessments are right-on. I only wish I had thought of this topic first, so as to reduce it to a list of demeaning designations for the sake of a cheap laugh:
Rename OSVD to MBOD - Much Better Off Dead.
SACE becomes AVKG - Anne van Kesteren Groupie
SASS (already pretty accurate, when pronounced phonetically) could be called CAFL - CSS As First Language
October 18th, 2005 at 6:01 am
SO, did you mean to say “Myers Briggs”, or is this indicator named after Eric Meyer and Owen Briggs?
October 18th, 2005 at 6:14 am
I’d like to say that I fall into SACE, but to be fair despite knowing the how’s and wherefores etc. for cutting edge, I just don’t have the style/taste so I leave that for others.
I probably fall into the SASS/OFAD scope of things.
You forgot AIFM - Accessibility is for Marketing. These group of people are the antithesis of Standardistas. They know very little about standards, accessibility or usability, but are damned if it’s going to stop them marketing on the back of it.
October 18th, 2005 at 6:34 am
I would say that I’m SAVD to SACE which includes SASS assuming the indicators you listed are listed in a certain order. I switch between them depending on which project is on my plate at any given moment. Sometimes I don’t have the opportunity to be a SAVD so I tend to become SASSy. My mindset is usually in the SACE realm dreaming of the day when we don’t have to worry about how each browser might interpret our code.
Great terms and I hope you enjoy the cruise. It looks nice!
October 18th, 2005 at 6:43 am
Somewhere between the “S…’s”.
October 18th, 2005 at 7:05 am
There must be more middle ground between your OSVD and SAVD labels, if the TTLM is a rare breed. Otherwise who are we talking to at these increasingly packed conferences and workshops? There are plenty of interested people in the audience, and they can’t all be SAVD’s can they?
Also I’d throw in a category for OSP, or Old School Programmers. The people that probably would have been SASSes if they’d started on the web at the right time, but lacking any elegance in the presentation layer back in the late 90’s, they focused on the programming and server end of things and are now stuck in their ways.
October 18th, 2005 at 7:12 am
I’m a SAVD-SASS-SACE hybrid. Definitely.
With a little “kick” inside
October 18th, 2005 at 7:14 am
Dave: if you look at @media, they were pretty much all SAVD (or even SASS/SACE), really, and it was kinda like that at Reboot 7, as well. Reboot’s much more code-oriented, however, but still standards-savvy.
Your description of OSP is the one I was looking for, for a friend of mine. Seems pretty accurate for him, hehe
October 18th, 2005 at 7:25 am
“SACE. Standards Aware Cutting Edge. Whether visual designers or code-centric or both, these are the folks that design first for Firefox, Safari and Opera and work around IE 6.0 only because they have to.”
I thought this was the current conventional wisdom.
As for me, I’m definately O.C.D!
October 18th, 2005 at 7:36 am
Hi Molly, sorry to hear about your awful cruse
I’d say I’m a mix of SASS and SACE with more emphasis on SASS. I recently had to work with a OSVD who supplied web visuals as a CMYK 300ppi QUARK document, seriously!! Luckily I know how to export to Photoshop.
That seems to be the way of things for me, not rubbish at visuals but certainly no Picasso so I focus on programming, structure and style.
Don’t forget the programmer who knows little about html but instead has it all generated by PHP, perl or asp.NET. They mostly speak in binary and wear cowboy boots, Hawaiian shirts and baseball caps. Maybe BRCS (Billy Ray Cyrus Syndrome)?
Cheers;
Poncho
October 18th, 2005 at 7:43 am
I’m a SASS-SACE hybrid - would love to be in the SAVD group but my art doesn’t extend much beyond a blunt crayon!
October 18th, 2005 at 7:47 am
Can’t make one up. CSS and minimal mark-up because I am plain lazy and so I can doodle in PS and crunch in Fireworks. That probably makes me a SALF.
October 18th, 2005 at 7:49 am
“I’m a SAVD-SASS-SACE hybrid. Definitely.
With a little “kick” inside.”
Are we brothers?
October 18th, 2005 at 8:04 am
I don’t seem to fall in any category you named. I’d like to call myself a Standards-Aware Web Developer (SAWD? gawd…) plain and simple. I understand the standards, but for me the main point of creating a website is creating a website, since that’s what my clients pay me for.
Standards are well and good, they’re perfectly workable nowadays, but they’re only tools to achieve an end, not an end in and of themselves.
A category for practical workers in the field who use standards but aren’t carried away by them seems a worthwhile addition to your scheme of things.
October 18th, 2005 at 8:05 am
Looks like I’m one of those common-as-muck SAVD’s then. Ah well, at least I’m in good company….
October 18th, 2005 at 8:08 am
I’m somewhere between Dave’s OSP and SACE, with an undercurrent of SASS. I suck at visual design, but given a PSD, I can kick it into a semantically structured web site and write some back-end code for it no problem. And then I’ll have a five hour debate with myself over whether this part should be a nested list or a definition list.
October 18th, 2005 at 8:15 am
I’d probably put myself between TTLM and SAVD.
October 18th, 2005 at 8:16 am
How about the CCWD (Completly Clueless Wannabe Designer) - this person thinks he is a SAVD or OSVD but really has no skill or talent to speak of. Despite this lack of ability, the CCWD insists on attempting to sell “web design” to unsuspecting clients.
I agree with ppk about standards being a means to an end, not an end in themselves. That’s how I see myself as well.
October 18th, 2005 at 8:44 am
Thanks for the laugh, Molly. I wrote about this here. I would add one category that I’ve encountered: OSCC or Old Skool Creative Communicator. This is a person who believes first and foremost in communication. The most important point of a website is to communicate, and anything that gets in the way is discarded. This person can’t be bothered to update their skills or learn new web methodologies because, in their view, XHTML, CSS and semantic markup are technical details that detract from the primary purpose of the web. Umm…which is to communicate.
October 18th, 2005 at 9:27 am
I’m British, so while I would like to think that I fit into one of the SA** categories im too reserved to tell you that I do.
October 18th, 2005 at 9:32 am
$.40/minute for wireless access on a geek cruise sounds like exploitation of a captive audience!
October 18th, 2005 at 10:57 am
I think I’d be a SAVD.
October 18th, 2005 at 11:03 am
SAVD/SACE and GSOH!
October 18th, 2005 at 11:13 am
I think I am OFAD in Your classification but watch my website and check it out.
October 18th, 2005 at 11:37 am
I think I’m another complex SASS/SACE/SAVD type, maybe even GEEK (Good Enough to Exude Knowledge?)
October 18th, 2005 at 12:46 pm
I’m an SAVD with SACE tendencies…
One type I deal with a lot at the university is SMTW: Stuck Maintaining this Website. This are folks that have been given the task of maintaining their department site on top of their other duties, and just want to know the minimum necessary to get it done. They don’t know about standards and they rely on WYSIWYG tools. They are more than willing to adopt any practice that saves them time. This is why it’s so important that there are easy-to-use tools out there that support standards.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:21 pm
Web Design Personality Indicators
According to Molly’s Web Design & Development Personality Indicators, I’m somehere between a TTLM and a SASS.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:36 pm
I’m a INFJ and probably a SACE wanna-be.
How does MBTI relates to WDDPI?
October 18th, 2005 at 3:39 pm
I’d be that SAVD - SASS - SACE 3 Hit combo.
I love my semantics and microformats but I’ve also been known to throw in a couple of additional tags just for the benefit of the design.
There’s a little bit of TTLM (although I’ve completely moved to web standards) I’m still trying to slay the Web Standards Hydra of knowledge. Learn something and two more things to learn pop up in it’s place.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:47 pm
Should really read comments before replying, sorry, one more thing to add.
Andy Clarke’s got it right, OCD
October 18th, 2005 at 9:00 pm
Yay! I’m to be “lauded” for desperately TTLM with a SASS-y outlook toward becoming a SACE. Sadly, while some SAVD traits are present, aesthetic talent is positively nill. So, SASS-ing is probably what I’d do best.
Er, why does that suddenly sound like a bad thing? :\
October 18th, 2005 at 11:27 pm
Perhaps this would benefit from being placed, not as a continuum of abilities, ie. one end good, one end bad, but as a set of individual, belbin style, personalities that can be held in differing measures.
For example: you may be recruiting for an Asp.Net programmer, who is standards aware, and semantically aware, but don’t need to know anything about visual astethics as you will recruit a separate designer.
Also you may have, what I would call a designer? with non-visual tendencies (old fart), but they may also be standards aware and semantically aware, and thus show some promise, if still young enough to learn.
Of course this does all depend on having a robust set of categories, and a robust assessment that is easy to implement.
October 19th, 2005 at 12:17 am
OSVD OTS (on the side). I want to level up to TTLM, but I’m not a real web designer and haven’t had much time to pick the new stuff up between work and extracirriculars. It may be a while ’til I can retire my tables and spacer GIFs.
October 19th, 2005 at 12:20 am
I’m moving from TTLM to SAVD. I still have a soft spot for Flash, though…
October 19th, 2005 at 1:33 am
I’m OSVD and SACE. Create an image-heavy interface webdesign, slice it in ImageReady and reconstruct it using CSS, ignoring IE. Try beating this
October 19th, 2005 at 2:05 am
That would be part SASS, part SACE for me, with a sauce of SAVD on top. (just enough to know what real SAVDs are talking about)
I showed a project-in-progress to my girlfriend yesterday and demonstrated how nice it responds to text scaling. She was not impressed and said “Ain’t that normal?”. Best compliment ever.
October 19th, 2005 at 2:28 am
I like to consider myself a SACE (or at least a SACE Wannabe) and I wonder why you did use <ul> and <li> with <strong> instead of a definition list?
October 19th, 2005 at 5:34 am
adding from a hybrid:
IDGD I dont’t give a damn.
Those people of expensive agencys have a little hunch about accessibility and webstandards, but for economical-reasons, they don’t care. Pityless they’re using dreamweaver or similar tools, until they retire.
(and the good guys may miss some jobs)
October 19th, 2005 at 5:48 am
SACE, definitely. It causes me daily aggro
October 19th, 2005 at 6:19 am
I´m definately a cross between TTLM and SAVD. Unfortunately only a dash of SAVD, there´s so much to learn that it´s sometimes overwhelming but for the most part fun.
October 19th, 2005 at 6:37 am
A TTLM who is scratching and clawing her way into the SAVD cat, but sometimes failing miserably because work simply has to get done!
October 19th, 2005 at 8:10 am
AAAAA: Angry, Acceptance-Averse Application Administrators.
They run your organisation’s major-vendor web application (the one’s that’s “accessible” because the logo has alt text). They’re programmers - you know, real hard-working geeks and not slacker web developers (web geeks, the bimbos of the IT world!).
If you dare point out that their product isn’t accessible, it’s not standards-compliant and crashes everything except IE6, they will turn puce in apoplectic fits of rage at your temerity. This thing runs the financial system, who are you to question it? If pressed, they’ll say it “doesn’t matter”, or “it’s the vendor’s problem”.
Extremely hard to work with in Hostile Mode, however can become an extremely powerful ally if won over.
Related and similar type: the AAAAA’s manager, or whoever gets the phone calls when said web application crashes. Similar symptoms, different motivations; often interested in bandwidth savings and lower development costs.
October 19th, 2005 at 8:29 am
TTLM, me, just to let you know a few of us are reading you!
October 19th, 2005 at 1:27 pm
I think it’s great and funny that you are creating a Meyers-Briggs personality test for a “web designers/developers.”
But, you’re just making new abbreviations/acronyms, not sticking to the spirit of Meyers-Briggs with four sets of opposing types (resulting in 16 web personalities).
I think if you had true opposits and put stuff together you’d probably have a basis for a book, or at least an article in a web design/development book.
October 19th, 2005 at 3:58 pm
I am definitely a mix of the TTLM and SAVD… For so long I have looked at sites and read books/articles that have failed to mention (or werent even aware of) standards and now there seem to be a slow rise of people/sites/agencies/classes that mention them to either a. make money or b. make money. It is rare to find someone that genuinely has the intrest of the internet at heart.
I loved Ben’s AAAAA description btw…. GREAT stuff!
October 19th, 2005 at 5:40 pm
I like the OSP term. There are a great many web sites out there driven by databases or content management systems, and I suspect most of the skill mix in designing these things was on the database side. Converting a web site to standards is hard enough; I can’t imagine converting a CMS system.
Personally, I’m SA - TTLM - HQMDJ (Haven’t Quit My Day Job.)
October 19th, 2005 at 5:42 pm
I would be a TTLM-BL. Trying to learn more - but lazy. I want my site to look good and be compliant, but I care far more about content than code.
October 19th, 2005 at 8:12 pm
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October 20th, 2005 at 4:55 am
@Paul,
If the system was written well in the first place it’s not too tough. Templates for the front end of most CMSs are per site, so they change constantly anyways.
I also like the OSP, but whine enough at an OSP until they see the light, get religion and become a SASS. It’s unlikely that they’ll become a SACE since I think there is a little on off gene programmers have no taste (just look at our wardrobes!), and designers have no concept of abstract logic (just look at their filing systems!).
October 20th, 2005 at 8:30 am
Merlin: The Opera magician
Opera 9.0, codenamed Merlin has been released as a forum/newsgroup preview. It has a lot of new features, even more fixes, and something for the Standards Aware Cutting Edge designers.
October 20th, 2005 at 11:51 am
How about a wanna-be SAVD who lacks the design skills to really make it there? Or maybe I’m a SASS, because I love code so much I dream about it.
Virginia
October 20th, 2005 at 12:51 pm
CSS HTTP = big mess
October 20th, 2005 at 2:18 pm
What’s with all the hybrid personalities here? I’ve been SASS since 1998
October 20th, 2005 at 3:46 pm
I would probably call myself a SACE, because it’s more of a hybrid to SAVD and SASS. Nowadays, it’s so easy to code sites for every other browser than IE, but since we have the MySpace type designers, who are just plain unaware of the standards, or don’t believe in them, since “Bill Gates created the Internet”. Although I lean more to SAVD, I don’t try to make my site all flashy, since content is what makes a site in the first place.
October 21st, 2005 at 12:59 am
I wonder what Tantek would think of this?
Adam Schilling
SAVD
Does writing this also make me a SACE? Or, just a FOOL? hehe.
As an aside, this would have to be the cheapest way to print a few initials after my name!
Cheers, Adam.
PS. Molly, I will see you at SXSW.
October 21st, 2005 at 1:04 am
D’oh. My code didn’t show.
Again, without the angle brackets…
div class=”vcard”
div class=”fn” | Adam Schilling
div class=”mwddpi” | SAVD
div
Sorry ’bout the double-post.
October 21st, 2005 at 7:21 am
I’m in the INV group. These are the invisible men and women who create software for the web - blog systems, photo sharing systems, online community and commerce sites of all descriptions. No one mentions us, speaks to us, or understands what we do, but without us where would the web be?
October 21st, 2005 at 10:44 am
WOBM. Works On Boss’s Monitor. Jacked-up font size, absolute positioning, and browser-specific hacks and slashes combine to make it look just fine when served locally to the CEO’s monster monitor … but for the rest of us, not so much. (See also FPOP, Flash Prototypes Only Please.)
October 21st, 2005 at 8:15 pm
Hey, thanks for the mention of Geek Cruises! Gotta try that one of these days!
October 22nd, 2005 at 10:09 am
Definitely SACE.
I’m also on the lookout for technologies that are the next big thing such as Web 2.0, and always keep my browsers up to date by the day.
Call me a obsessive compulsive SACE because web standards are all I care about when doing web development work. (Oh, I forgot to mention accessibility as well, can’t ignore this one too…)
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October 23rd, 2005 at 8:33 pm
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October 23rd, 2005 at 9:40 pm
Definitely SACE (or at least trying to get to that status), but hey isn’t that what I was told to do by CSS Zen Garden book - design for the Best Standards-compliant browser first and then work on graceful degradation on the less supporting browsers such as IE?
October 23rd, 2005 at 9:59 pm
I guess I am SASS, hehe.
October 24th, 2005 at 8:46 pm
I’m definitely in the TTLM category. Im gettin’ there…
October 26th, 2005 at 12:59 pm
Oddly enough I find I float between 3. TTLM, SAVD, and SACE. I am always trying to learn more all the time. I am reading everything on CSS, accessible design and design practices that I can get my hands on to make sure my skills are always the best that they can be.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:17 am
I am a true TTLM…
November 3rd, 2005 at 11:21 am
Unfortunately, I’m only a TTLM.
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November 6th, 2005 at 5:29 am
I never knew I was moving from SAVD to SACE (without realising it) until I read this article… oh yes, AND I did the Briggs-Myers years ago (hacked it to allow floats in the values - I could never decide on an integer, I wanted sliders and still fantasize about making a web-app version, although someone MUST have already done it). I also try to teach standards-based web design to humanities students who think visually… it’s a great tester of what sticks and what doesn’t with people who just want to build a site - you could say they’re (after Daniel) NSCC or New Skool Creative Communicators, but I hope at least 1/3 of them will grasp CSS and valid markup before they finish the course. With a bit of support…
November 7th, 2005 at 2:40 am
I think I switch between SACE and SAVD.
Then again, alot of other people hear do that too!
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December 16th, 2005 at 10:15 am
Hey, where is the worst group of all:
FFFF - The Frikkin Fatal Flash Fuckrs, they do everything in flash, whether it is an error page or only a 2×2 px button. They definitely are my most hated group of all.
February 23rd, 2006 at 8:45 pm
Kazana,
Not so sure about that - at least you can disassemble a Flash animation, and extract the text when you redevelop the site instead of having to type it all up manually for those people who embed entire slabs of text in GIFs …
March 7th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
I found this post while looking for more information about designers and their personalities. I am definitely a hybrid of SAVD and SACE.
I recently discovered this personality analysis that correlates with the above. It gives a summary of how we interact with others, but also may relate to how we approach design.
March 19th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Great post, Molly.
I prefer OFADs to IITICIMBGDs (If I Think It’s Cool It Must Be Good Design).
FFFFs, as Kazana wonderfully describes them, are a subset of this personality type.
I prefer a visually uninspiring website to one that appears to have been designed by an acid-head with ADD, provided of course its content is of value.
Not surprisingly, I’m sort of an OFAD, though I prefer to think of myself as a minimalist. If an element doesn’t offer something useful to expression of content or navigation, it’s there solely for the gratification of the designer, and therefore useless, and probably irritating, to anybody else.
That’s not to say I don’t appreciate appropriate and intelligent design, but I hate excessive, vulgar design. Less is more. If the content is good the design can relax.
March 19th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
TTLM/SASS/SACE. Depends if I am coding from scratch or using a CMS.
If I were a better graphic artist, I would strive for becoming a SAVD someday. As it stands, the code is what makes sense to me and what I love.
Ideally, the visual part can be done by a real artist in Photoshop, leaving me with a beautiful image to turn into a semantic standards-compliant website that will work in IE with the aid of my new favorite thing, conditional comments and an alternate stylesheet. Too bad that hardly ever happens!
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