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PHUK PHENTERMINE AND all his little spam friends. Fortunately, WordPress is efficient in stopping this recent comment spam onslaught before it hits the site, but if anyone has any successful strategies, WordPress plugin combos, and so on, I’m interested in hearing them.
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Posted by: Molly | 10:44 pm |
November 23rd, 2004 at 11:31 pm
Try Dave’s Spam Karma plugin. More here (with links): http://climbtothestars.org/archives/2004/11/11/quick-comment-spam-tip-for-wordpress/#comment-3144
It’s now compatible with 1.2 if that’s what you’re running. You can install it in one click if you install the plugin manager before that (very very much worth it). It killed about 350 spams on my blog in the last 24 hours (it keeps a log of what it kills, which is nice) and let the only two legitimate comments through without moderating them.
November 24th, 2004 at 12:32 am
Block all of 80.58.* - that’s Telefonica in Brazil, which hosts about 99% of all Comment SPAMmers. Users coming from that IP block get to see the following page: http://www.jluster.org/blocked_spammer.html - which will not only bock the SPAM but also put the pressure on Telefonica.
November 24th, 2004 at 2:31 am
So far I have had no spam (knock on wood) on my blog, which may be due to my comment validation plugin, which forces the commenter to take an extra preview step as well as writing valid code if he uses (X)HTML.
November 24th, 2004 at 2:41 am
Jonas, would you mind posting a link to sample code or a simple how-to do this? Thanks
November 24th, 2004 at 2:52 am
Hi use both a spam plugin in WP and denying the access to the people that are spaming my server. To do this on an Apache server is very easy. I wrote about it here.
http://www.jedisthlm.com/index.php?p=41
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November 24th, 2004 at 6:27 am
I use Kitten’s Comment Pay in conjunction with the Blacklist Comment Plugin.
This prevents spam from being posted to my blog using the M-T Realtime Blacklist. When a spammer does submit something, Kitten’s Comment Pay loads and asks them to donate $50 to my Paypal account. If they do, then I approve their spam
November 24th, 2004 at 7:10 am
How about stopping most of your comments?
November 24th, 2004 at 7:17 am
I’ve been using Blacklist. I know what you are going through. I’ve been getting about 20 per hour. Just when the texas holdem-0 finally died off.
November 24th, 2004 at 8:03 am
I’ve tried a lot of methods… From Kitten’s spam comments, to blacklist, to optional comment moderation. Sure, these plugins helped prevent the spam from getting on the site for all to see, but they still filled up my inbox with annoying this message has been put in your moderation bin messages. The most effective way I’ve found to combat spam is to change the name of wp-comment-post.php to something else and then change where that page is called in the files wp-comment.php, wp-comment-popup.php, and wp-comment-reply.php. Since doing that, I haven’t gotten a single piece of spam in my comments.
November 24th, 2004 at 9:08 am
I’ve blocked open proxies from commenting, used Dougal’s Tar Pit to block specific IPs, and maybe one other thing besides tightening up the spam words. I used to get hammered something fierce, but of late, I see maybe four or five a day even getting to the moderation queue.
I offer a community-based Weblogging service that runs WordPress, and so I’ve been keeping up with the measures I’ve advocated in a set of comment spam stopping tutorials. I should probably go back and tag all my other Weblogs with a category solely about comment spam stoppage so that’s easier to decipher.
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November 24th, 2004 at 10:22 am
I agree with nikkiana. I changed the names of my comment related PHP files and it stopped instantly.
November 24th, 2004 at 10:32 am
Nikkiana: indeed changing the form’s (or file’s) name is somehow effective at the time being. But only because the few spambots currently hitting WP blogs are still rather basic and handled by complete morons (some of these spams even have tag mistakes that probably bar them from being indexed by Google)…
Soon enough, they’ll catch up, and working around form name change is a no-brainer for a spambot: they did it immediately in the past for MT, they’ll do it for WP.
However, I agree: having to manually check moderated comments, or even clutter your mailbox with dozens of moderation emails, is not an acceptable options… The first goal of a good spam-fighting tool is to ensure the peace and convenience of legit commenters and site admins. If it leaves even a percent of the spam to process manually, it is not satisfyingly helping the admin (1% of a few hundreds/thousands can be a lot).
In my opinion, the most efficient protection at the moment is a combination of 1) automated blacklisting and 2) encrypted payload in the comment form:
- The encrypted payload makes it impossible to spoof IP (no matter what: the same client has to be querying your form page and posting it).
- Blacklisting, preferably automated (and done smartly when dealing with IP), insures that if such a Spambot ever surfaced (they are not there yet) that parses the form and resends the payload, it would get swiftly blacklisted (or its proxy would)… and there aren’t an infinity of open proxies out there…
< shameless plug >
Of course, Spam Karma, kindly mentioned by Steph above, does all that and more…
I invite you to check the extensive post containing all the technical details and make up your mind.
So far, it seems to have reached its maturity, hasn’t yielded any significant false positives that I know of since its last update and has already deleted a few thousand spams across the few blogs it’s been installed on…
To try him is to love him
Of course I’ll gladly appreciate any suggestion/feedbacks on bugs/improvements…
</ shameless plug >
November 24th, 2004 at 10:33 am
arrg… forgot to insert my own self-serving spam URL in previous comment:
http://unknowngenius.com/blog/archives/2004/11/19/spam-karma-merciless-spam-killing-machine/
November 24th, 2004 at 10:41 am
I’d have to agree with nikkiana and Travis. The spammers seem to be targeting individual files, and they can’t do anything to differently labeled ones.
November 24th, 2004 at 11:44 am
Wow, great idea to change the name of wp-comment-post.php. I’m going to try that right away. I have been getting hit hard lately with the phentermine (what is that anyway?) spam as well. I have been having success with using Wordpress’ comment moderation features. However, as some have noted, this only keeps the spam from becoming a comment and not from filling up your inbox with moderation requests.
November 24th, 2004 at 1:39 pm
well, I’m giving Nikkiana’s approach a try. I’ll keep you posted (ha, ha) on the results. Thanks everyone - and hey - anymore solutions, feel free to keep the thread going. This is really helpful information.
November 24th, 2004 at 1:55 pm
A friend recently installed wordpress after i told him how cool and easy it was, and one modification he made when he installed it was to rename his wp-comments.php file to something else in the hopes that automated spammers would just look for this file.
I haven’t heard how effective it was, but it sounds like a pretty good idea to me and I plan on trying it out in the near future.
November 24th, 2004 at 6:08 pm
I did Nikkiana’s suggestion some time ago on one of my older sites that is still using B2. Changing the path names does indeed work. Make them hard to figure out. It’s not like you’ll be looking for them all that often if ever).
I wanted to ask Matt M. if in a future release of WP, a change could be made to the install. Currently we have to change the name of a file before installing. What if we were given the option of changing the comments file name/path dynamically during the install? For example, right before the persistent MySQL connection is made, a window could ask you what you want to name the comments file. It would then rewrite the file name and path for the user (since most users are intimidated by attempting it). That would be more secure than having WP or MT write its own names. Just my 2¢.
November 24th, 2004 at 10:10 pm
Hey Dave
From what I understand, this method probably works because it’s not popular (yet), and spambots don’t bother to parse the forms. If everybody starts doing it, then it won’t be long before it becomes ineffective?
November 25th, 2004 at 12:24 pm
Just saw this on wordpress.org:
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In combination with the above for handling blog spam, I use the .htaccess file with a combo of deny and http referrer rewrite rules to block them from mis-using my site.
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